Storing data usage, personal ads, 21.99€ just to remove ads or a subscription model.
I’m a dev myself and I get that everyone needs to be compensated, but right now I have only one thought:
“You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.”
$170 AUD for a lifetime “ultra” license.
Absolute farce of a price
I honestly can’t believe what I’m seeing on Lemmy RE: Sync. Lemmy itself doesn’t have ads, neither do the iOS apps that I’ve been using - Memmy (which is AMAZING) and Liftoff, yet here comes Sync injecting ads in and having absurd subscriptions or one time fees…and I’m seeing comments about people “crying because I’m so happy” and “can’t stop smiling” lol.
Seems the reddit app devs who made their millions off the back of reddits free content are now coming here and just going straight to reddit 2.0 money making mode lol. They’re now charging people to use their app that is using a free API. These are the same devs that chose to close their reddit apps completely instead of offering a subscription model that would pay for the api access. Make it make sense.
It’s worth noting they did already have a subscription model in place with Sync for Reddit. The difference would’ve been in losing the ad-supported free version of the app due to the API changes.
And instead of just making it subscription only he decided to kill the entire app…to then come here and milk the Lemmy crowd and show them ads lol.
Reddit was the one who killed the app by implementing the API changes (it actually killed a number of apps earlier than expected that day).
No, what killed the app were the devs choosing not to switch to a subscription-only model.
Holy shit y’all. Developers need to eat too. It’s totally fine to charge for an app or serve ads. LjDawson is a fantastic developer and really listens to his user base. Yes there are plenty of open source apps to use, but sometimes closed source is way more polished because the developer makes it their job to create the app. Living isn’t free. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Free as in freedom. Not free beer.
You lost this fight decades ago
And it’s a one-time fee.
I used Sync for Reddit for 11 years.
Holy shit y’all. Developers need to eat too. It’s totally fine to charge for an app or serve ads.
You might be forgetting that these same developers refused to simply put in a subscription to their reddit apps to continue them, instead closing their apps and telling everyone to move to lemmy because that’s where their app will be…and now adding huge subscription fees and one-off fees on a platform that doesn’t charge them to use their API lol.
Maybe I’m just cynical but this really seems like the dollar signs lit up in the reddit app devs eyes the second reddits API changes got announced.
Maybe a one time payment like for original sync, imagine supporting subscription services for a FOSS app 🤡🤡🤡
except sync isn’t FOSS, lemmy the fediverse link aggregator is 🤡🤡🤡
I’m obviously referring to lemmy when I say foss app, you think you look smart being a contrarian?
except lemmy isn’t an app, it’s a platform. sync is a lemmy app.
taken from the website:
“Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform.”
so if anything it’s you who is the contrarian, lol. but I digress ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ignoring my argument twice in favour of nitpicking words, youre not a contrarian keep going
now that’s the good old Reddit I used to know
made a whole meme to defend nitpicking words, 3 replies so far nitpicking my words and ignoring my original argument like a true contrarian, keep going
Perhaps when you create your own app you can determine your own cost model.
“Dont judge politicians unless youre one of them” nice mindset bro
politicians are meant to be judged devs are meant to be criticized just for improvement, you can just use another app
Sure? I only criticized ill stick to liftoff since theres only subscription option
he has literally said he will add an one time payment
current comments defend his current actions so no opinion on that until it happens.
PS: weird how the no ads option takes more time to develop than the subscription option with 10x features, INCLUDING the no ads one !
If you’d like to have a real conversation, I’m willing. If you want to pretend to argue things no one claimed, you’re on your own.
I tried an analogy since you didnt see the fallacy of your point, that failed too I guess, telling me dont judge the dev unless youve been in their shoes would mean u cant judge politicians either, I can and should have opinion on stuff regardless
Again, point me to where I said don’t judge. I didn’t. Judge away.
If you look at my post again, you’ll find that I tried to suggest that when you make your own app (and you should), you should decide on your cost model which sounds like it’ll be free. I eagerly await your release!
Not replying to my points and telling me I wait for your app is called an ad hominem, is this how you reply to people in real life?
Lemmy is funded by Patreon/Liberapay… Which are essentially subscriptions
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their default model isnt based on ads like sync for lemmy
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a third party client isnt as much work as the fediverse as u see it took him a month
3)ads used to be a one time payment for his old app, so the money was enough for him back then and now hes even richer so why do you excuse his greediness?
It took him a month because he adapted a code base he had been working on for a decade.
It’s not greediness to want to be able to pay your bills. This is his job. Also a single payment option has already been developed it’s just not made in live yet.
He was already paying his bills with the one time payment and now hes even richer, this is the definition of greediness. Also his future plans are irrelevant here I am judging his current actions and the OP comment defending them.
PS, weird how the no ads feature takes longer to develop than the recurring payment with 10 features, INCLUDING the no ads one!
Sync for reddit also had a subscription model
Which didnt have the no ads offer, which is what my one time payment is referring to.
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I’m sorry. I get a developper needs to eat but 100+ dollars for the lifetime is absolutely outrageous. That is more than some AAA games on release.
For some people, that’s the price they paid for their entire low/mid-range Android phone.
Yeah, fuck him. Long time paying and vocal supporter here. I’ll get the cracked version on Mobilism when it’s released
Loving the Foss spirit of Lemmy so far reading the comments
Yeah proud of my fellow users
What?? Ads is the first thing I see… My dude have you seen your competition? Thunder’s latest update is amazing zero ads. Why would I change?
I installed it, used it for 5 mins and uninstalled it to go back to Thunder.
I’ve always loved sync, but just checked thunder. Almost immediately uninstalled as on default settings the ui is way too cramped and lacks contrast with all posts blending to each other. Very hard to read for me. I guess you could make it better by fiddling with the settings, but I just went back to go sync where it’s already very good on default settings and I was able to make it perfect for me just by changing a couple of settings.
Edit: downvote as much as you want lol, it’s just my opinion. Good to know that Lemmy is just like reddit with opinions ;)
Already very good on default? The text size on default is tiny so straight away I was in the settings looking to enlarge font size for posts and comments
You do you! To me, yes this is the perfect font size.
It’s full of personalized profiling too. Hard pass from me.
The competition is nowhere near as good tho
I disagree, I prefer the ux of thunder. Sync is good, I found the spacing between posts to be very awkward on the smaller list like options though.
Long time Sync user and Ultra (lifetime).
Now I am really disappointed the lifetime membership isn’t transferable to Lemmy. Nothing. Not even a discount, a note, nothing.
Contains ads
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That was the case with the original Sync, no surprise here.
Although there was the option to purchase Pro as a one-time fee. This one unfortunately only has a subscription option (which I’m not too keen on).
Edit: ljdawson has confirmed there will be an one-time payment options for both Ultra and ad removal!
Screw subscriptions. They’re invariably a rip off and I’m not made of money.
Lol! The choice is ads or a SUBSCRIPTION!?
My friend, we know other 3rd party Reddit app developers are working as fast as they can to make lemmy apps. One of them is bound to have a one-time pro version upgrade. I’ll hold out for that.
LMAO … Subscriptions. Why on earth do you think we left Reddit?!
I left Reddit because Spez is an asshole and he killed third-party API access (which, btw, impacted more than just clients - many useful bots/scripts died too as a result of this change).
For many of us, Sync was Reddit, and killing Sync basically killed Reddit for us, but now that Sync is back (for Lemmy), many of us are more than happy to pay a subscription to support the dev, instead of supporting Reddit. ljdawson is an awesome developer who actually listens to his users and updates his apps regularly. If you don’t want to support him and/or use a different app, that’s your call of course, but for fans of Sync, it’s like coming back home after a long time and getting that feeling of “there’s no place like home”.
Ads or subscription.
Yeah, I’ll stick with Thunder. Having used Lemmy and Mastodon, I realised how much I hate ads.
Yup that is a real rough pill to swallow when the default is free AND no ads. If I’m going to drop money on lemmy I’d rather just donate to whoever is hosting my instance.
Not interested in something that supports ads or subscriptions. It definitely doesn’t fit the ethos or average desires of most lemmy users from what I understand.
The free and open source applications for lemmy are working out for me, so I really have no need for something like this that goes against what I believe lemmy stands for
Sometimes you have to pay for keeping things free, if that makes any sense.
FOSS can’t exist in a vacuum. The developers spend a lot of time on things and they need to be paid for their efforts, otherwise we won’t get great products like Sync.
If you want things that are well maintained and supported, then there has to be income for those owners to provide those services.
Sync for lemmy is a top tier client. I’m willing to pay to get and support that model. It’s not like the 17 dollars a year is a big deal. I spend more than that on a single sushi roll sometimes.
You can donate to keep the quality. I agree the ads based system is against the spirit and philosophy of Lemmy. Lemmy isn’t a reddit and this is where the dev of sync did a mistake.
Donating isn’t the only possibility. The dev could make the app a one time payment (I know he said it will come) without free version. If people want to use Sync, they have to pay for it. It’s for the job and hours behind it.
That’s true. But does not change my opinion or preferences. But the choices I have at the moment I suppose, is remain with the current application I am using (which is adequate and serving me well), try out an ad based application, and choose to pay to get rid of the ads. I am at a point where my choice of remaining where I am is the most appealing.
You do you. People who have used Sync in the past know what you’re missing out on.
Ads or it tracking us ?
I am testing it out now. It seems really good.
it has ads.
and you can’t post.
but otherwise I agree.
weird, I haven’t seen any ads yet
Interesting! Here’s what it looks like for me:
It’s like having Reddit back, this is amazing. 🙏
For as long as I can remember Reddit and Sync have been one and the same. I never used Reddit website or app, only ever used Sync to browse Reddit hosted content. I used it a lot. I’ve missed it a lot.
Between the Lemmy platform and Sync client, to all intents and purposes what Reddit was has been fully restored/migrated.
I know it’s early days, but I did not expect to see anything like this so soon and it gives me hope that Lemmy can grow and thrive into the network of people that always made Reddit what it was. Everything that’s needed is there - early, a little rough around the edges, but there. And being improved constantly.
Hallelujah!
I know there is some controversy with the ads and that it’s closed source but wow this app is really nice. I never used it for reddit I used rif so I didn’t understand the hype but I get it now. I’m holding out for an app with multireddit though. That’s the one feature I really want.
My God, I missed Sync so much. Devs , thanks.
Yes it contains ads. I’d rather have a single purchase.
But, DNS adblocking does remove the ads, just leave a grey box. It’s also definitely far more polished than any of the other Lemmy apps right now.
Oh I thought it wasn’t implemented. I forgot I have dns ad blocking :) :)
But this app is worth paying for if you like it. It’s also very cheap, something like 3 dollars or less per month.
